Bridging the Gap: How to Integrate Estate Planning Into Your Advisory Practice
Jesse Studeven of Money Concepts shares the exact process his team uses to integrate estate planning into their annual meeting cycle, including how they structure spring and fall meetings, when to request documents, how to run family meetings, and when to involve attorneys.
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Duration: ~38 minutes | Featuring: Jesse Studeven (Money Concepts Advanced Planning) with Josh (FP Alpha CSM) |
He also reveals his firm’s fee pricing model with a tiered menu of services that eliminates arbitrary fees. Jesse then walks through a live Estate Lab case study, a single client with $12.5M in net worth and nearly $6M in estate tax exposure, showing how an ILIT and a QPRT reduce the total estate tax to $2.8M in under five minutes. Includes practical guidance on pricing one-off trust reviews and handling clients who aren’t in your standard planning process.
What You’ll Learn
- How to structure an annual meeting cycle that incorporates estate planning — Jesse’s traffic pattern model with spring meetings for estate and insurance, fall meetings for tax planning, and off-seasons for investment-only clients
- A practical fee pricing model for planning services — Jesse’s tiered menu of services (basic, intermediate, extensive) with a valuation system that eliminates arbitrary fee-setting across multiple advisors
- Live Estate Lab case study: $12.5M single client with $6M in estate tax — how an ILIT and a QPRT reduced total estate tax from nearly $6M to $2.8M in under five minutes
- How to handle one-off estate planning clients — pricing a $500 trust review for a referral who isn’t in your standard planning process, and generating recommendations from a single engagement
- Why estate planning matters even with a $15M federal exemption — state estate taxes, the risk of future exemption reductions, and planning opportunities that exist regardless of net worth
- How to position yourself as the centre of influence with attorneys — building strategies in the Estate Lab, presenting them to the attorney for validation, and generating referrals back
- A real client story: Hawaii widower with ILIT and QCD strategies — how estate document review plus tax planning reduced a client’s effective bracket from 22% to 13–14%
Chapters
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- 0:02 — Welcome & Series Context — You Don’t Need Every Episode to Get Value
- 2:36 — The Two Enemies: Cost of Attorneys & Ever-Changing Estate Law
- 3:35 — Re-Centring: Financial Success Is a Soft Skill
- 4:25 — Why Estate Planning Matters Now — Even with a $15M Exemption
- 6:26 — The Services Gap Revisited — 96% Want It, 10–22% Receive It
- 7:55 — The Traffic Pattern Model — Structuring Your Annual Meeting Cycle
- 10:04 — Spring Meetings: Estate & Insurance Reviews
- 12:30 — Fall Meetings: Tax Planning, Social Security & CPA Collaboration
- 13:55 — Off-Season Strategy: Investment Clients & Staff Time Management
- 15:33 — The Fee Pricing Model — Menu of Services & Valuation System
- 19:40 — One-Off Clients — Charging $500 for a Trust Review
- 20:35 — Case Study: John Adamson — $12.5M Single Client with Estate Tax Exposure
- 23:17 — Live Estate Lab Demo — Base Facts, ILIT & QPRT Strategies
- 27:36 — Results: $6M Tax Reduced to $2.8M — Zero State Estate Tax
- 29:54 — What’s Next: Upcoming FP Alpha Features
- 31:28 — One-Off Clients Revisited: The Missouri Brother Story
- 33:49 — Real Client: Hawaii Widower — ILIT + QCD Drops Bracket from 22% to 13%
- 35:52 — Closing: Embrace the Why-Not-Me Mentality
- 36:53 — Q&A & Series Preview — Part 3 in Late October
Key Takeaways
The Traffic Pattern Model Makes Estate Planning Systematic, Not Ad-Hoc
Jesse’s most practical contribution in this session was his meeting cycle structure. His firm runs two formal client meetings per year: spring (estate planning and insurance reviews) and fall (tax planning, Social Security analysis, and CPA collaboration). The process starts 4–6 weeks before the spring meeting with document requests — trusts, medical directives, and insurance policies are uploaded to FP Alpha for snapshots. After the spring meeting, there may be a family meeting to involve beneficiaries, followed by an attorney meeting if documents need updating. The fall meeting produces a tax review, and any Roth conversion or charitable strategies are reviewed with the CPA. Off-seasons (summer and winter) are reserved for investment-only clients and legacy relationships. The key insight: the process doesn’t change based on account size. A $500K client gets the same structure as a $17M client.
A Tiered Menu of Services Eliminates Arbitrary Fee-Setting
Jesse shared his firm’s fee pricing model in detail. They maintain a menu of services with three tiers (basic, intermediate, extensive) that reflects the scope of planning a client needs. Each service has a point valuation, and a client’s total points are calculated based on their needs and net worth using a dropdown system. The quarterly fee is generated from this calculation — in his example, about $317 per quarter, which they round down to $300. The fee is reviewed annually as needs change (marriage, divorce, new assets). The critical benefit: every advisor on the team arrives at the same fee for the same client, which eliminates the uncomfortable subjectivity that many advisors feel when setting planning fees. Jesse recommends starting with a model week to understand what your time is worth, then building the menu from there.
The John Adamson Case Study Shows the Power of Five Minutes in the Estate Lab
Jesse walked through a live case study of a single client (John Adamson) with $12.5M in net worth, no spouse, no children, and siblings as beneficiaries. At baseline, John faced nearly $6M in combined federal and state estate taxes ($4.4M federal, $1.5M New York state). In under five minutes, Jesse modelled two strategies in the Estate Lab: an irrevocable life insurance trust (ILIT) to remove a $3M death benefit and $650K cash value from the estate, and a qualified personal residence trust (QPRT) to transfer John’s $2M New York house out of the estate at its current value. The result: federal estate tax dropped to $2.8M and New York state estate tax dropped to zero — because the house (the primary state-taxable asset) was no longer in the estate. Jesse also noted the beneficiary planning opportunity: since one sibling is a high earner and the other isn’t, splitting assets by tax bracket (more pre-tax assets to the lower-bracket sibling) adds further value.
Estate Planning Is Not Just for High-Net-Worth Clients
Jesse pushed back strongly against the idea that a $15M per-person federal exemption eliminates the need for estate planning. His argument has three layers. First, state estate taxes still apply and have much lower thresholds — John Adamson owed $1.5M to New York alone despite being under the federal exemption. Second, the current high exemption is not guaranteed to last; Social Security Trust Fund deficits and other fiscal pressures make a future reduction likely. Third, and most importantly, estate planning is not just about tax. It’s about family dynamics (an adult child who won’t work), creditor protection (an inherited IRA that lost Supreme Court protection), beneficiary optimisation (different tax brackets for different heirs), and simply making sure documents reflect the client’s current wishes. Jesse’s standard: even at a $28M couple exemption, there is always planning to be done.
Combining Estate and Tax Planning Multiplies the Value
Jesse closed with a real client story that demonstrated the compound effect of using both estate and tax tools together. A widowed client in Hawaii inherited a significant pre-tax IRA and had a life insurance policy pushing his estate over the exemption threshold. The estate snapshot identified the need for an ILIT (removing the death benefit from the estate). The fall tax review then found that qualified charitable distributions and donor-advised fund strategies could reduce his effective tax bracket from 22% down to approximately 13–14%. Neither insight alone would have been as powerful as both together. Jesse’s point: the estate snapshot feeds the tax conversation, and the tax analysis reinforces the estate planning urgency. Using FP Alpha for both creates a virtuous cycle of value.
Jesse’s Annual Meeting Cycle
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Season |
Focus |
Key Activities |
FP Alpha Tools Used |
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Spring |
Estate planning & insurance |
Request documents 4–6 weeks out; upload to FP Alpha; review snapshot with client; redline issues; family meeting; attorney meeting if needed |
Estate Snapshot, Insurance Snapshot, Estate Lab |
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Summer |
Off-season (investment clients) |
Investment-only reviews; legacy client check-ins; staff training and process refinement |
N/A (or ad-hoc as needed) |
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Fall |
Tax planning & Social Security |
Upload tax returns; review tax snapshot; Social Security analysis; Roth conversion modelling; CPA collaboration meeting |
Tax Snapshot, Tax Projector, Roth Simulator, Tax Wrap |
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Winter |
Off-season (investment clients) |
Investment reviews; year-end planning wrap-up; prep for spring cycle |
N/A (or ad-hoc as needed) |
Tips & Best Practices from Jesse Studeven
Build a menu of services with point-based valuation.
Every service you offer gets a point value. Every client’s needs are scored against the menu. The fee is generated from the score, not from a gut feeling. Review annually. This ensures consistency across multiple advisors and eliminates the discomfort of arbitrary pricing.
Request estate and insurance documents 4–6 weeks before the spring meeting.
This gives you time to upload to FP Alpha, receive the snapshot, review it, and prepare your talking points and redlines before sitting down with the client.
The process doesn’t change by account size.
Jesse’s traffic pattern applies whether the client has $500K or $17M. The scope of strategies may differ, but the rhythm of discovery, review, family meeting, attorney meeting, and follow-up is identical.
Charge $250–$500 for one-off trust reviews.
When a referral comes in just wanting a trust reviewed, don’t do it for free. Upload the document, generate the snapshot, walk through it with the client, and charge a consultation fee. Many of these become full planning clients.
Present strategies to the attorney, not just questions.
Use the Estate Lab to model ILIT, QPRT, or other strategies before the attorney meeting. Walk in with a visual showing the before and after. Attorneys respect prepared advisors and it shortens the meeting dramatically.
Don’t overlook state estate tax just because the federal exemption is high.
In the John Adamson case, the federal exemption covered him, but New York state tax was $1.5M. The QPRT eliminated it entirely by removing the house from the estate. Always check state-level exposure.
Combine estate and tax planning for compound impact.
The Hawaii client story: ILIT from the estate review + QCDs and DAFs from the tax review dropped the bracket from 22% to 13–14%. Neither finding alone was as powerful as both together.
Give yourself off-seasons.
Don’t try to do everything for every client in every quarter. Spring for estate, fall for tax, summer and winter for investment clients and catch-up. Your staff needs the rhythm too.
Ready to integrate estate planning into your meeting cycle?Upload a client’s trust document and see the Estate Snapshot, then model strategies in the Estate Lab. [LOG IN TO FP ALPHA] |